Skyrim Black Soul Gem Vs Grand



Black soul gems are used for capturing the souls of creatures normally protected by Arkay - NPCs of any of the playable races. Their souls are of 'Grand' size, making them also desirable for the best enchantments. Soul gem fragments are broken soul gems, and are not useful for anything. The following is a list of Soul Gem IDs in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. To receive the soul gem you want, type the following in the console: ' is the soul gem's ID and ' is the number of those soul gems you want. If you use ANY type of enchanted weapon, Black all the way. No soul gems and your favorite weapon/daedric artifact is low on charge? Excuse me while I go annoy that group of bandits over there. Even the lowliest humanoid enemies give grand soul. Full charge, best possible new enchantments everytime.

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  • Black Soul Gems are a special type of soul gem that, unlike conventional ones, can contain both black and white souls. Black souls are those of sentient, humanoid beings such as Men, Mer, Argonians, Khajiit, and Dremora, whereas white souls are those of animals and certain lesser Daedra.
  • Black are only useful for curing vampirism and capturing NPC souls otherwise they are exactly the same. Fixed I was meaning for the purposed of enchanting filled soul gems. But yeah, black soul gems are easier to fill, but when both have grand souls they are the same other than the cure for vampirism quest.
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From left to right: Petty, Lesser, Common, Greater, Grand and Black Soul Gems

Soul Gems are miscellaneous items which can be used to trap the souls of dying creatures or NPCs. The resulting filled soul gems can be used as power sources for enchanted items, either when initially creating custom enchanted items or when recharging depleted enchanted weapons. Soul gems come in a range of capacities, from petty to grand, plus some special soul gems. Only black soul gems and the Black Star can be used to capture the soul of an NPC, which is always a grand soul in size. There are also soul gem fragments found in the game. These are classified as minor loot and are not actual soul gems.

Empty soul gems can also be harvested from geode veins, which are only found in Blackreach. Each mined vein will result in 2–3 soul gems of any size, including black soul gems. The mined soul gems are level-dependent; at level 16 grand and black soul gems will start to appear, and the probability for either will max out at level 31.

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Types of Soul Gem[edit]

Standard Soul Gems[edit]

NameSoulIDCapacityWeapon RechargeNotes
Petty Soul Gemnone0002e4e20.110250 (Petty)500Smallest size of soul gems.
Petty0002e4e340
Lesser Soul Gemnone0002e4e40.225500 (Lesser)750Second-smallest size of soul gems.
Lesser0002e4e580
Common Soul Gemnone0002e4e60.3501000 (Common)1250Middle size of soul gems.
Common0002e4f3150
Greater Soul Gemnone0002e4f40.41002000 (Greater)2250Second-largest size of soul gems.
Greater0002e4fb350
Grand Soul Gemnone0002e4fc0.52003000 (Grand)6200 (caps at 3000)Largest standard size of soul gems.

If you get a message saying that you do not have a large enough soul gem to capture a soul, even though you have an empty grand soul gem in your inventory, it means that you are trying to catch a humanoid soul, which requires a black soul gem.

Grand0002e4ff500

Special Soul Gems[edit]

NameSoulIDCapacityWeapon RechargeNotes
Azura's Starnone00063b27010003000 (Grand)6200 (caps at 3000)Works the same as a grand soul gem, but does not break on use.
Black Soul Gemnone0002e50013003000 (Grand)6200 (caps at 3000)Special soul gems that can capture humanoid souls.
Grand0002e504750
Flawed Varla StoneCCnoneFExxx8010.310001000 (Common)1250Works the same as a common soul gem, but does not break on use. Added with the Rare CuriosCreation.
Soul TomatoCCnone(?)0.52503000 (Grand)[verification needed — see talk page]6200 (caps at 3000)[verification needed — see talk page]Equivalent to a Grand Soul Gem. Two can be found in Kinthal's camp on a stone table, and they do respawn.
Grand(?)500[verification needed — see talk page]
The Black Starnone00063b29010003000 (Grand)6200 (caps at 3000)Works the same as a black soul gem, but does not break on use.
Treated Soul Gemnone00094e400.225500 (Lesser)750Unobtainable.
Wylandriah's Soul Gemnone00043e26003000 (Grand)6200 (caps at 3000) (see bugs)See the quest Hunt and Gather.

Notes[edit]

Gem
A Lightning Attractor for creating black soul gems
Soul
  • To use a soul gem to recharge a weapon, first select the weapon in your inventory and then:
Difference between Black and Grand Soul Gems? - The Elder ...
  • press the Wait key, which is T by default
  • press R2
  • press RB
  • press R
  • A small menu will open where the description ordinarily is, and you can choose a soul gem to use.
  • Soul gems are consumed upon being used to recharge a weapon. This is one reason why it is a good idea to fill your soul gems as efficiently as possible (i.e., grand soul gems for grand souls, common soul gems for common souls, etc.). A soul gem not being used to its fullest capacity could be considered a waste (losing a grand soul gem because you used the petty soul contained within to recharge a weapon, for example). However, you can simply drop a filled gem to empty it (note that this will empty all self-filled gems (see bugs)).
  • Standard merchants do not sell black soul gems. To purchase one you must talk to either Enthir at the College of Winterhold while he is in his quarters, or Falion in Morthal.
  • You will obtain a Warped Soul Gem during the quest Arniel's Endeavor; however, it cannot be used to trap souls.
  • If you have the Dawnguard add-on installed, grand or greater soul gems can be transformed into black soul gems by using the Lightning Attractor found in the Soul Cairn.
  • If you have the Dragonborn add-on installed, you can combine any soul gem (empty or filled) with an albino spider pod at the imbuing chamber in White Ridge Barrow to create a mind control spider.
  • If you have Saints and SeducersCC installed, Soul Tomatoes function as Grand Soul Gems. They previously appeared in the Shivering Isles expansion for Oblivion.

Bugs[edit]

Skyrim Black Soul Gem Vs Grand Soul Gem

Skyrim Black Soul Gem Vs Grand
  • Soul gems that you filled yourself, with the exception of grand and black, do not change in value when fully filled (i.e., a common soul gem (valued at 50 when empty), will not increase in value with a soul in it, even though a prefilled common soul gem is valued at 150). This also causes them to not stack properly in your inventory.
  • Soul gems that you filled yourself may be emptied if dropped, or transferred to a follower or container.
    • This issue has been addressed by version 1.0 of the Unofficial Skyrim Patch; only partially filled soul gems will be emptied, in order to allow you to fix any errors in filling them.
  • Wylandriah's soul gem is fillable and can be used to recharge enchanted weapons, despite being a quest item. Consuming the gem through recharging enchanted weapons or enchanting items.
    • This bug is fixed by version 1.0 of the Unofficial Skyrim Patch.

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